The End of Podcasting for WordPress

by Ben Straw on December 21, 2009

The End of Podcasting for Wordpress

And then there was one.
It all started with Podpress, what was a great plugin that a lot of podcasters had used including my self, back in the day. The development this plugin has been halted since Dec of 2007 and from rumors around the Internet, development has stopped. Now FAST FORWARD to this month (Dec 2009) the Podcasting plugin has now dropped development of the plugin. And according to the blog post, the Podcasting Plugin does not support the latest WordPress install 2.9.
Its a shame that developers within the WordPress community, do not want to to fight for podcasters within this space. Most creators of these plugins don’t get payed for what they do and some rely on donations from people to get payed, and then the users expect them to fix bugs and add things on a whim.

Blubrry’s Powerpress plugin is now the ONLY WordPress plugin for podcasters to use. Even though I think Powerpress is a great tool, and I dont think Blubrry is going anywhere soon, I am fearful of what might just happen to Podcasts, if we loose support for the only solution to get iTunes, Zune or other feed readers to recognize our feeds.

Are you worried?
Should we be?
Let me know what you think, Please leave a comment below.

    { 13 comments… read them below or add one }

    Rob Blatt from Blubrry December 21, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    You’re right! We’re not going anywhere. We were ready with an update as soon as 2.9 was released. We’ve been a company for five years, and we’re one of the only podcasting companies that still supporting the community.

    For that reason, we’ve added support for those who were using the podpress or Podcasting plugins and opened our doors when Podango and WildVoice went out of business and when PodBean was having server issues. There was no commitment for those podcasters to stay with us after their free 30 days, it was just a way to keep their shows online.

    We didn’t set out to be the only plugin left, but that’s the position we find ourselves in. We welcome what the community has to say about the situation.

    BuyerBrown December 22, 2009 at 3:31 am

    Since I’m new to podcasting I never heard of the Plug-in you mention, I also don’t know much about Blubrry but if they’re the only one left, I assume they are worth getting to know.
    It always concerns me when there is only one of something, my curiosity has been raised.
    Why is Blubrry the only one left ?
    What does this say about Wordpress and the community within it?
    I have yet to cross over to wordpress.org, this makes me question if I would want to cross over at all, maybe It would be better to use a different solution.
    Of course on the other hand if the creators of Blubrry are of stable mind and dependable their success could start a new interest in plug-in creation for wordpress overall
    I think the real question is does Blubrry have what it takes to breathe new life into Podcasting on Wordpress until it ignites.
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    Braden Douglass December 22, 2009 at 5:14 am

    Rob, thanks for jumping in here and making it evident that Blubrry is an amazing product brought to the community by an even better team.

    As for what Ben has to say, a platform that is inherently open source can almost never die out (99.8 % chance of continued survival). WordPress is used by so many blogs that plugin developers will drop off here and there, which you have definitely brought to light. However, the overall community will thrive because others will rise up and, in the ashes, build something better, stronger, faster easier, or just sexier.

    Ben, you and I are part of the Tech Podcast network and well know the kind of talent that exists in this world. This talent will and apparently has come up with an answer in a relatively short amount of time (since 2.9 was released). We all need to be open to new and different technologies because if you drop behind the ball once, it takes just that much longer to get back up on.

    Dave Jackson December 22, 2009 at 5:58 am

    No. Not at all. I have confidence that Todd and the boys are not going anywhere, and if they do I’ll just use the 1 pixel player (as I only do audio). The creme always rises to the top.

    Steve December 22, 2009 at 6:19 am

    I know you are representing podcasters who use Wordpress, but there is a really excellent tool called Podcast Suite for Joomla that produces iTunes verified RSS feeds. Since you still have Burburry this probably isn’t much of an issue for you, but I guess
    I am saying there ARE other avenues out there.

    Steve December 22, 2009 at 6:28 am

    Err.. Blubrry. Feel free to fix my typo. That’s what you get for posting a comment to a blog from an iPhone.

    Jay Forrest December 22, 2009 at 9:47 am

    You are incorrect when you say, “Blubrry’s Powerpress plugin is now the ONLY Wordpress plugin for podcasters to use.” I used the TSG Podcasting Plugin for the Linux User Podcast and loved it. It is a simple plugin that did everything I needed. I am using the Blubrry’s Powerpress plugin for MefitationRadio.org only because of the stats. Blubrry has the best stats and is worth the switch. TSG Podcasting Plugin even allowed me to create a separate feed for the ogg version of the podcast. By the way more people have downloaded the TSF Podcasting Plugin (73,366) and it has a better rating http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/search.php?q=podcasting&sort=

    Ben Straw December 22, 2009 at 10:05 am

    I’m sorry to say Jay but that was the plugin that I was talking about is the TSG Podcasting Plugin
    http://ronaldheft.com/2009/12/podcastings-plugin-development-comes-to-a-close/

    Cliff Ravenscraft December 22, 2009 at 10:26 am

    I have been OPPOSED to using these “all-inclusive” podcasting plug-in’s from day one.

    There is NO REASON to use them. WordPress does a great job of creating media enclosures necessary for podcasting all on it’s own. In the event you want more control over what does and does not get enclosed you can use an INDIVIDUAL plug-in for that. There are a TON to choose from! I use KG Enclosure Flex
    http://www.15framespersecond.com/enclosureflex/

    Need a Flash Audio Player for your podcast to play right within your site? There are INDIVIDUAL options for that as well. The best one BY FAR is the Audio Player plugin.
    http://www.1pixelout.net/code/audio-player-wordpress-plugin/

    What about getting your feed to include that iTunes Specific Jazz? Well that’s where Feedburner comes in. I’ve been using them since December of 2005 and became even more confident in their service when Google bought them.

    As for stats.. Well, I host my nearly 2000 episodes on Libysn and have AMAZING stats going way all the way back.

    I have 24 podcasts that I personally produce, myself. As a full-time podcast consultant, I’ve helped more than 300 other podcasters launch their own shows. Not one of us have ever used the “Podcasting Plugin” “PodPress” or “PowerPress.”

    That being said.. I’ve had a GREAT DEAL of business come in from clients who had started podcasting on their own with the use of any of the three above mentioned podcasting plugins.

    What happens is that when a new version of WordPress comes out that breaks ONE THING inside of these ALL-INCLUSIVE plug-ins, they are stuck until an update is posted fixing it. When things break, they call me to help. While I enjoy getting more work that helps put food on the table, I’d rather earn money helping podcasters take their show(s) to the next level.

    Let me just say this… I LOVE THE GUYS AT BLUBRRY! Todd is a great guy and his heart an passion is in podcasting.

    I consider Angelo Mandato to be a good friend. He has done an AWESOME JOB building the PowerPress plug-in. It’s very full-featured and you’ll never find a plug-in creator who is willing to provide more service and support for their plug-in product than him.

    Of any out there, IF (AND ONLY IF) you were to choose an all-inclusive plug-in, this is the ONLY ONE that I would say that you should “consider.”

    But friendship with Todd & Angelo aside, I think it’s ENTIRELY POSSIBLE to do SUCCESSFUL PODCASTING ON WORDPRESS WITHOUT an All-Inclusive Podcasting Plug-in.

    End of podcasting on WordPress? NOT A CHANCE!

    Just my two-cents!

    Cliff J. Ravenscraft
    http://PodcastAnswerMan.com

    Angelo Mandato December 22, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    The plugin “Podcasting” and PodPress have more downloads than PowerPress, but keep in mind that PowePress was first released in August of 2008, Podcasting was originally released summer of 2007 and PodPress was first released in 2005 sometime. Download totals aren’t necessarily a way to measure how well a plugin is.

    The rating system is also not necessarily the best way to measure plugins on WordPress. The ratings go all the way back to previous versions. I will admit that earlier versions of PowerPress lacked in features found in PodPress and we paid the consequence for that with our rating. I even had someone send me a nasty email that they didn’t liek the default player in PowerPress and spitefully said they were giving us 1 star. Since this September, we now have all of the features previously found in PodPress and we’ve added 4 more players to pick from including the 1 Pixel Out player. Hopefully over time our star rating will go up.

    PowerPress also allows you to create separate feeds for other formats such as ogg. This feature is called ‘Custom Podcast Channels’. The custom channel gives you a permalink friendly URL, so you can do http://www.example.com/feed/ogg/ for example.

    Angelo Mandato December 22, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    Cliff’s impression that you can do everything with other plugins is incorrect in the case of PowerPress. You can add podcasting to your WordPress blog with a number of plugins and FeedBurner, but you will be missing some important features that most podcasters find invaluable. Here’s a short list:

    * Updating (pinging) your iTunes listing when you publish a new podcast episode.
    * Detecting your duration automatically for the iTunes duration field.
    * Verifying a media URL is valid (not 404)
    * Providing podcast only feeds (ideal for podcast directories like iTunes)
    * Customizing your iTunes subtitle, summary or keywords
    * Tools to modify your media URLs if your media hosting happened to change for one reason or another.
    * Tools to make custom podcast channels password protected (also known as Premium Content / Premium Feeds)
    * Tools to add publishing security, you can decide which users on your blog can create podcasts and which cannot.
    * Category podcasts with your own custom title

    Plus it can integrate with Blubrry.com’s services, though you don’t need an account at blubrry to use PowerPress. If you’re using blubrry for media statistics, you can access your stats right from your WordPress dashboard. If you’re using blubrry.com for hosting, you can upload and publish your media right from the edit post screen your WordPress blog.

    Jay Forrest December 22, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Thanks for clarifying, when you said “the Podcasting Plugin” I thought you were referring to the Podpress Podcasting Plugin. However it appears that Glenn (http://wpopen.com/) may be taking over development of the plugin, which would be great. http://ronaldheft.com/2009/12/podcastings-plugin-development-comes-to-a-close/

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